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Dog Nutrition: Homeopathic Vet Has It Wrong

IdeaMan21 | April 24th, 2009

For a rawfed dog, there is no such thing as too much protein. Too much food, yes. Too much fat, yes. Too much of whatever the dog digests poorly, yes. Oh, and too much (as in “any”) plant-based protein like soy, yes indeed. A dog has two nutritional requirements in its pyramid: Protein and Fat. You cannot take either away without significantly affecting the dog as a whole.

It would seem that your homeopathic vet does not know or doesn’t care that dogs, being domesticated wolves, have no dietary requirement for anything but protein and fat. Your dogs need plenty of meat. The protein count comes with naturally with meat.

Digestive system, liver and metabolism in an otherwise healthy dog are not adversely affected by raw protein. You may indeed want to try something other than beef (feedlot beef is corn fed and if there is anything that’s likely to screw up your dog’s digestive system et al it would be corn. Or any other grain), but if/when you remove beef, you should be prepared to feed some other meat.

It’s not the presence of meat that’s likely messing with your dogs, it the presence of meats that are less than optimal (for a variety of reasons).

Your vet is utterly, completely missing the point of carnivorism if veggies and fruits have been recommended. This so undermines any vote of confidence I might otherwise have for the vet. Regardless of what kind of meat protein you want to feed, getting all (as in ALL) the species inappropriate stuff OFF the menu and OUT of the dog is job one.

I would argue that job two would be to find a different homeopathic vet.

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Tags: carnivores, dog foods, dog health problems, dog nutrition, eating habits, homeopathic remedies, natural raw diet, raw feeding

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Dog Nutrition: Need Some Advice on Raw Feeding

IdeaMan21 | April 21st, 2009

I’ve been reading this blog alot and I’ve been lurking for a while. I am also a member of RawFeeding and RawChat. I’m so grateful for all of you who so freely share your knowledge with the rest of us. You have made feeding my dogs (and cats) very easy! Thank you so much!

A bit of background (I’ll try and keep it brief) – I lost a 9 yr old female GSD (German Shepherd Dog) in December to torsion (yes kibble fed). It’s hard to lose a dog and knowing that you’ve contributed to it is even harder.

I vowed to do better. In speaking with the breeder I bought her from, she really stressed her belief in feeding RAW. I did research, and Whole Prey Model is what made sense to me. I converted my remaining dogs – male Corgi almost 8 and female Chi 5, in January.

No problems whatsoever. The dogs looked great, felt great etc… I got a new GSD, put him on RAW – ears cleared up and coat getting softer, etc…

Chichuahua

Chichuahua

Well, I haven’t done good enough. I just lost the Chi 2 days ago to liver failure. And yes, she had had her boosters the week before symptoms appeared. She had been not eating well the week of the boosters also, and I should have known better. I did mention it to the vet before he gave her the vacines and he blew it off. Although my vet has treated my animals for 30 years and was supportive of RAW feeding, it’s time to move on. He chiropractored my Chi for 3 days, shot her up with pain meds on the 4th day and finally diagnosed liver on the 5th day – she didn’t even last 2 weeks.

I take full responsibility for both of my dogs dying. I know I need a whole lot more knowledge in order to make better judgment calls. I need to be pointed to sources of knowledge – are there books, websites, magazines, etc…? I don’t want to lose another animal based on my ignorance.

I know that vacines do more harm than good. I live in MI and I think that Rabies is the only one required by law. I had already decided on no more flea/tick poison. I am a bit confused on heart worm meds….I live less than 1/4 mile from Lake MI and we definitely have tons of mosquitoes in the summer.

The dogs have already been tested this year and are negative. I was never keen on putting my dogs under for dentals and the diet has taken care of that. Should I take my dogs in for a wellness check (to a new vet of course) and if so, what should that entail? Instead of getting blown off when I feel there is something wrong with one of my dogs, what should I insist that the vet do?

Any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance,

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Tags: barf, carnivores, Chi, Chihuahua, dog health problems, dog nutrition, German Shepherd, GSD, natural diet, raw feeding, vaccine damage, vaccines

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Dog Nutrition: Is Large Breed Dog Food Different From Small Dog Food?

IdeaMan21 | April 18th, 2009

Can anyone explain the difference (details plz) between small breed puppy food and large breed puppy food? Is it the digestible protein or fat content? Or is there basically no difference if you feed high quality food?

Small breed puppy foods are formulated with smaller breeds in mind, meaning it is usually more nutrient dense since small breeds can only eat so much and pieces are smaller for smaller mouths. Large breed puppy foods are designed for slower growth and different ratios of nutrients….but since this list usually frowns on discussing commercial dog foods, I don’t want to offend anyone by discussing it any more detail.

There isn’t such a thing as “high quality” if you are referring to processed foods. Regardless of protein or fat percentages, the ingredients are all wrong for a carnivore.

But, to answer your question….it depends! :) Not very helpful, huh?
Seriously, there doesn’t seem to be any standard. I just compared 6 brands. Some are higher in fat and protein for the large breed foods, some for the small breed foods.

Any breed, any size requires lots of good quality protein and fat for proper growth, little to no carbs and not excessive amounts of calcium and other nutrients….of course you can only find that when feeding raw.

As I recall the large breed puppy foods are formulated more to do with growth and bone needs of larger breeds. The more difficult stand is which breeds are considered ‘large’; it is subjective with some thinking any dog larger than a miniature poodle is large while more canine knowledge seem to consider large breed as those above naturally 100+# at healthy adult weight.

I do not consider a Golden Retriever a large breed dog yet when I got my girl her former vet had the previous owner feeding her large breed puppy food; I immediately changed her diet and explained I consider large breed dogs more in line with Mastiff or Great Dane.

It seems all Group Members do care and love our pets, and joined this Group to exchange ideas and concerns without degrading of each others thoughts or beliefs . The Group description states this Group does support raw feeding.

In the beginning I thought that meant while we all might discuss different foods, I should be prepared for those who also fed raw. It took me a while to realize food topics other than raw acceptance are generally frowned upon & discouraged in group topics.

I explain this as a matter of fact and do not wish to offend any one, therefore, while the Group supports raw feeding, if you are not following that diet, please discuss this issue with your friends and vets for their opinion.

I think that foods marketed for large breed, small breed, senior, puppy, sensitive stomach, etc are all gimmicks, like Royal Canine marketing different foods for different breeds! Ridiculous.

Why would a Labrador Retriever have different nutritional requirements than a boxer? I am always amazed by those who feel that they have found the ‘perfect’ food for their dog, because the very label has a photo of their breed on it and says it was made specifically for that kind of dog.

Some of these ‘formulas’ may have a few minor differences, like glucosomine (not enough to make a difference) in a large breed formula or smaller bites in a small breed formula. If you compare the labels, they are all very similar.

Pet food companies love to dupe the consumer into believing that their food is best. Though I do feel that some kibbles are worse than others, none are appropriate for a dog. They simply do not have the proper enzymes or the type of digestive tract that is meant to process all of those grains and carbohydrates.??

Its pretty much all the same – species Inappropriate!

A raw feeding plan is best for puppies and dogs, who are carnivores;

http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

http://www.rawlearning.com/supplementmyths.html


http://www.rawfed.com/myths/index.html

http://rawfeddogs.net/Recipes

Raw is the ultimate evolutionary diet, with nutrients that are optimally bio-available, since they aren’t denatured by cooking or interfere with the dog’s digestive process.

http://rawfeddogs.net/FAQlist

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Tags: carnivores, dog foods, dog health questions, dog nutrition, eating habits, glucosamine, Golden Retriever, great dane, kibble, large breed dogs, large breed puppy food, natural diet, puppy foods, raw feeding, senior dog

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Dog Nutrition: How Many Times to Feed

IdeaMan21 | April 17th, 2009

Hi, I am interested to know how many times to feed my dogs. I have 2 BCs, one is 5 yrs old and a pup 11 months old. When he turns 1 year old I would like to switch to 1 time a day. I feed raw and have heard that feeding once a day (and only late at night) is best for raw feeders.

Doesn’t matter what time of the day you feed but one meal a day for adults is great. Allows you to feed larger more complicated meals which is good for teeth, gum, jaws, entertainment, etc! :)

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Dog Nutrition: Dogs are Carnivores

IdeaMan21 | April 2nd, 2009

The domestic dog and the wolf are one and the same. Dogs are not
omnivores, as some have claimed. Dogs are carnivores, exactly like
wild wolves. Geneticist Dr. Robert K. Wayne at UCLA has conclusively
proven that the domestic dog is a subspecies of the wolf.

Subsequent studies have verified this conclusion.

Next, it must be understood what wolves actually eat in the wild,
especially when they are not pressed by loss of habitat and human
intervention. Contrary to some claims, wolves do not eat the stomach contents of their prey nor do wolves consume much vegetable matter.

The preferred food of the wild wolf is the meat, bones, and organs of
large hooved Mammals. In times of scarcity, desperate wolves will try to eat a variety of food items, just as would any starving creature, but they strongly prefer to eat meat, organ, and bone. Dr. L. David Mech has been studying wolves for decades, and has published many books and articles on wolves and their diets.

Dr. Wayne’s website:
http://www.eeb.ucla.edu/indivfaculty.php?FacultyKey=501

Dr. Mech’s website:
http://www.davemech.org/biography.html

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Tags: carnivores, dog behavior, dog food, dog nutrition, domestic dog

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